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A.B.I.torial: Did These Characters “Ruin” Fighting Games?

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  1. Sakura is an exception that proves the rule. Sakura, even though she's a school girl has multiple aspects of her design and character that are explicitly made to ensure the player of why she would be participating in a fight. Sakura's animations and specific details in how she fights, show that she's inexperienced and still learning even though she's gifted and that has it make alot more sense then her effortlessly fighting like everyone else. People are always gonna find that far more endearing then someone like Ingrid or Lucky Chloe who are treated as equals to other fighters even when its at the expense of other characters.

  2. I think in general people just dislike when characters who look like they never been in a fight in their lives not only get put into fighting games but are also shown as equal if not stronger then mainstay characters who've had to both work hard to be where they are at and also look the part. You're whole argument that anyone can be in a fighting game is honestly just absurd. I don't think it takes much explanation on why 6'1 300lbs Honda seems like he could participate in a fight rather then a character designed to look like an underage girl. This isn't about "realism" this is about how all games have their own tone and what is reasonable in their world. I really hate disingenuous arguments like "its a video game you can do whatever you want" when any reasonable person knows that all fiction still has to follow its own rules.

  3. >Why don't people want pedo bait in their fighting gamesGee its a mystery

  4. Uninspiring intrusions lead by obedient appeasers of political agendas.

  5. I hate Lucky chloe, because her 'rivalry' with Eddie draws parallels between her crappy line dancing and Capoeira. One is crap and he other one is a martial art with rich history and cultural aspects – can you guess which one is which?

  6. I don't get it. Why does Lucky Chloe supposedly don't fit while no one complains about fucking Kuma or Gon? lol To me it sounds more as gatekeeping with people being afraid of the fighting game franchises appealing to broader audiences than anything else.

    Also I LOVE Ingrid's design I really wish Capcom would expand more on her as a character. And Marie Rose is absolutely awesome. I love how she uses the opponent's body against himself.

    Lastly, Capoeira DOES work on fights BUT it's very different from Eddy's in-game style. Capoeira when used to actually fight does not incorporate the more dance-like moves used for performances and (back in the day) disguise it as a dance. Instead it focuses on powerful kicks using your momentum and it can be absolutely devastating in a fight.

  7. I think they were hated because nobody knew them or could afford them i had to wait for Christmas or my birthday to get the Dlc. Some people just couldn't afford them so they don't know their movesets.

  8. Sexism. It’s sexism. As a woman who likes fighting games it’s 9 times out of 10 sexism.

  9. I hear people online say Ingrid is a mary sue but I don't see it. A lot of characters from fighting games are over powered but no one complains about them. Guess I just find it weird.

  10. 13:39 "capoeira wouldn't work in a fight" my dude doesn't know shit about brasilian history.

  11. Lucky Chloe is hated because if her personality and her "annoying move set" which I think is funny when they're the point of her character

  12. 2 years later, yeah that Sakura thing has a point

  13. Since I used to be a DOA fan and some people don't seem to reflect on what lead to the controversy surrounding Marie Rose and Honoka, I'll explain, at least what I think it's the reason, why the two were and are still hated:

    The issue is not their existence. The hate is because they literally overshadowed all the characters that defined the series before these two debuted. The fact that they kept on being shoved down at anyone's throat when they barely did anything to the series to deserve the popularity other than being loved to death by the japanese audience. Most people feel like their popularity is unwarranted and biased since they aren't even main-character material and feel they are completely forced into the franchise for the only reason being that they are little girls. They feel like the amount of work and animation was done so much into these two than anyone else due to the current producer being heavily biased with the cutesy "loli" thing, that fans feel like every other character is completely abandoned in favor of these two. That's why Marie Rose and Honoka are so hated. Because the only reason why they are popular is due to the japanese audience's (and the producer's) obsession over short girls and not because they are so cool that they deserve to be loved. Because it pretty much confirms that Koei Tecmo has officially gave up on making DOA a respectful fighting game series that we can enjoy and just embrace the fact that it's only unconditionally loved in Japan and that's it. And the remaining western fans of the series are pissed off on this and so they blame it all on the creation of Marie Rose and Honoka because those two symbolize the company abandoning the western fans as well as pretty much ALL the characters, including the OG female ones, in favor of the current japanese otaku audience that keeps making them money with Marie and Honoka.

    If they were at least put in the series just as fine additions and not necessarly being shoved down at everyone's throat and knowing how to please both sides, then the hate wouldn't have been this massive.

    So in other words, the issue is not the existence of Marie Rose and Honoka, it's how the marketing was done awfully. Which is also one of the main reasons why DOA is pretty much dead at this point and the only thing relevant is Xtreme Venus.

  14. Dude, Marie Rose and Honoka are hated because Koei Tecmo keep shove them down our throats, even putting them where they don't belong, like a Dynasty Warriors-like game. I get it that you said that we wouldn't play these fully fanservice games where they appeared in, but did you even take a look at the current state of Dead Or Alive and the way Koei Tecmo has been treating it? They have completely ignored a big portion of the fanbase and just use Marie Rose and Honoka as their "tickets" for easy and cheap money for the current japanese "fanbase" which is just a bunch of otakus who probably didn't even grow up with the series. Why else is the current focus of DOA just on the japanese-exclusive game like Xtreme Venus where they barely even have the OG ladies and it's mostly dominated by a buch of short little girls who even have the same face and body proportions of Marie and Honoka? Because Koei Tecmo has decided to completely neglect the fighting scene altogether of Dead Or Alive and now just using the Xtreme series for easy money. It's clear that they don't have any faith in the franchise and now they only rely on the Japanese otakus. It's not that hard to understand why Marie Rose and Honoka would get so much hate. They are the reason why DOA is doomed as a franchise and it will only take a miracle for it to come back properly.

  15. I'm mostly indifferent to the hate any fighting game character gets! 🥱

  16. That cancelled Capcom Fighting All Stars sure did sound interesting and would probably have been fun.

  17. Why? Because boys want every playable character to be a boy. Duh.

    The outcry is surprisingly based on emotion from the gender that wants to be about logic and reason.

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